SNA Survey on Lincoln Yards of What is a "good beginning"

 Based on their initial vision and from what you've seen/heard/read so far, what do you think is a "good beginning" for the initial Lincoln Yards proposal? What do you like about it?

 A good beginning would be a complete and detailed plan with less density than what is proposed now. I think that the idea of the entertainment venue and the housing is good but the density is too high. They need to include more park space  to accommodate the increase in residents.

 Hate it! Traffic on North Avenue, already bad at times, will be even worse when the multiple new apartment complexes start filling in.  And this Is in addition to the horrendous traffic that will result from this overall project.

-I'm delighted to learn about the cleanup that is taking place at the brownfield sites.

-I like that there are conversations beginning about how to make the north branch of the river more clean and accessible to Chicagoans to enjoy. This includes a continuous path for running/walking/biking connecting the north neighborhoods to downtown and the Riverwalk similar to what the Lakeshore Path does on the city's eastern edge.

606 extension

606 Extension + Engaging with North Branch Park. Embracing the River Framework plan.

80 story building is absurd

A "good beginning" would start with area residents' needs. No one "needs" a 20K stadium. Maybe it's only "officially" begun but I know that a lot of back room negotiating has been going on. High profile developers are already on board at SB, looking out for their own benefit.

A clean up of the site is a good thing and the removal of toxic elements. Some type of live and work development is fine but needs to be much reduced form what is currently planned.

A development plan to work from.

A good beginning involves careful planning and persuasive marketing coupled with the support of the city. To mitigate the issues pending around traffic congestion, alternative transportations (i.e. the El) should be carefully planned out and promoted for the communities surrounding this area. 

A good beginning is to put an end to it.  Maybe retail and residential but on a much smaller scale. The whole development as currently proposed is abominable and will ruin Lincoln Park and the surrounding areas.  At a minimum, eliminate the music and sports venues. Ridiculous to have that in the midst of an already dense area.  Start building further west and south to grow the city outward vs. constantly growing upward.  

A good beginning is to start with green space, and build around that.

A good beginning would be an independent evaluation by urban planners from western Europe and one or two U.S cities such as San Francisco  and New York.

A good beginning would be the city or our neighborhood groups hiring traffic consultants and urban planners to represent us.

A good beginning would be to get live nation as far away from any city development program as possible

A lot more detailed info on all the “proposed” plans. I like seeing the property being developed if done well.

a variety of uses 

Absolutely not. There is no way that the local infrastructure can handle that volume of cars/people in an area that is already very congested. 

Absolutely nothing about this plan is a "good beginning".

adding bridges across the river would be great

Adding more density is a good thing.  Zoning is the crux for all urban development to be done correctly.  This project has the opportunity to change dumb, old zoning regulations to appease my NIMBY neighbor's who are afraid of growth and change.

Adding something would drive tax revenue for the city and the neighborhood. That seems like a good idea. There is not nearly enough green space though, that is what future residents want, and what differentiates a city like Chicago, from NYC.

Additional public park/open green space. 

Admitting infrastructure improvements needed, addressing site clean-up (I'm a chemist, I wouldn't live there)

Alderman Hopkins speaks with forked tongue :) . . . but it is a 'good beginning'.   The quality of the buildings are good, the treatment at the river is good, the IDEAS about transportation improvements are good, the amount of open space is adequate, the over all density and proposed square footage is good, the idea to mix some entertainment/sports uses into the plan are good and will provide anchors to bring people to the area whose spending will spill over to adjacent neighborhoods. 

An additional bridge over the river, especially for bike and ped traffic is good, a combination of owned homes and rentals is good, significant density is good IF paired with improved public transit, mixed-use retail is good. Cleaning the brownspot is good, improved river access is good. Updated Metra station is good. Extension of the 606 is good.

An upfront commitment to infrastructure improvements must be done immediately. That includes a cost estimate for each, funding source, timing prior to development. 

We need input from the CTA to find out what plans are feasible, such as a shuttle from the Fullerton and Armitage CTA stations, bringing back the Clybourn bus. 

 

We need input from CPS to get an accurate estimate of the anticipated number of students 

 

We need more details about publicly accessible recreational and  natural Open Space.

Without more details, we can not make an informed assessment of the project

And Hopkins is an idiot and has no clue other than financial contributions to his selection. That being said SB would rape and pillage without oversight.

Any development plans for the area are a good start. 

Are there any precedents for this type of development that can be reviewed? Has a proposal from SB been received indicating what they expect/desire the taxpayers to pay for?  Has the city indicated the size of TIF funding is being considered?  I would not support TIF funding of a significant size since that really is money going to a private entity's profit.

as a beginning yes

as far as I can tell, Sterling Bay made a pitch heavily weighted to themselves. 

Beginning keeping an open mind

bridge improvement (cars and 606), road grid upgrades, riverfront development - very underutilized amenity

Bridge over armitage. 

Brings new professionals to the area and can help to bolster the current businesses along North which seem to flip often. Right not the riverfront is unusable & unfriendly, will be wonderful to have public access there. Would reject non public parkland. 

Build the 606 and Armitage bridge

Cleaning it up and making it a safer part of our community - but not at the expense of the businesses that make ends meet by housing themselves in what has been lower rent spaces. We can’t put people out of business!

cleaning up manufacturing sites

Cleaning up the river front and removing heavy industries is good for the neighborhood. 

Cleanup of some polluting industries is a good thing.  Doing something with the space is a positive.

Community meetings

Connecting the 606 trail through the development and making use of the river for transportation and recreation. Keep in mind what the 606 has done for property values nearby; it is a relatively small investment to put in a really nice path that reaps terrific benefits in terms of property values and quality of life for residents. High bang for your buck.

Continuous river park and 606 connection

creating riverwalk space similar to downtown's riverwalk

Density levels MUST be controlled. Chicago housing is in abundance, and the profits of developers should not be allowed to outweigh the quality of life in this area which is greatly impacted by traffic congestion. Particularly due to proximity to expressways, and already-clogged Clybourn and vicinity.

Density should be increased in the area and significant development along the river should allow for increased development and housing in surrounding areas

Density, amenities, engage the river and neighborhoods

Density. Lots of density. 

Design schematics, notably depictions of current rather than fake-historic architecture, and embrace of river are notable positives. The 606 and Metra tweaks are also noteworthy.

Developing the parcel of land. 

Developing this land is a good idea as long as it doesn’t create density/traffic issues. 

Development of that land is good and will create more tax dollars that our city needs. Sterling Bay execs seem to live in the city and neighborhood, I like that.

don't know enough yet....

Don't like much about it. The infrastructure can't support this and we also run the risk of having it turn into a filed development.

Don’t agree it’s a good beginning. They made an “opening offer “ that’s way too high and it should not be allowed to drive all future discussions. Chicago through its citizens and communities should start with a clean slate and set forth a vision of an ideal development for the site. Then both proposals can be vetted. 

Don’t like anything

Empty land will be developed to bring needed revenue to the city.

Engaging the community and addressing traffic concerns

entertainment variety. 

Everything SB proposed is okay by me

Everything, much needed for a very long time!

Extending Armitage Ave to properly cross river with a bridge

Extending the 606 trail east

Extremely high density and lack of details

Firstly, I am pleased that the sites are to be developed, and am hopeful that the development proceeds quickly. I'm pleased that mixed uses are proposed. I'm concerned about density -particularly high rises -and the impact on traffic congestion.

From what I’ve heard, read and seen, this is a disaster. It will Impact the quality of life in all the communities surrounding the site.  They should think about doing some senior housing options which would not Impact schools or traffic.  

Get rid of the idea of a 20,000 seat stadium and 80 story highrises

Getting feedback 

Getting on and off the Kennedy at Armitage, North Ave,  and Division already is difficult. This is going to be a disaster. I commute to the burbs to work and any time there is a cubs game it adds 30 to 45 min to an already 1 hr drive. Just since the NA Clayborn update has happened N Ave is grid lock now during rush hour. Help me understand how this will be managed.

Give us open space and we will consider giving you heights

Glad there will be more services and not manufacturing. Manufacturing does not belong here anymore. 

Good beginning is a reduction in overall density of each aspect of proposal. Think about development as creating more Lincoln Park of the present area but with more mixed use, more affordable housing in low-to mid-rise buildings, neighborhood parks and green space with infrastructure that includes new connections to El lines, new bus routes with dedicated lanes for buses and bikes, sidewalks, schools.

Good beginning:  Have all of the nearby aldermen/women and many neighborhood residents  work with the S-B folks.  Many years ago when Children's Memorial wanted to build another building, they hired a mediator to work with representatives of all of the north side organizations, like SNA, to iron out details. There was give and take on both sides, and the resulting buildings and surrounding areas were vastly  improved over the initial plans. THe group met frequently and took positions back to their organizations for votes on how they should respond.  

Good density, mix of uses and vision for riverfront spaces. Also good Metra plan.

Good that we have a developer willing to remove old manufacturing and Brownfield sites.  Good that there will be new parks. Good that there will be two new bridges, new Metra Station, new 606 connection to river trail.

Green space. Mix of hotel, office, retail, residential. 

Ha! I don't like anything about it. This type of development does not belong in a city. 

Handling traffic congestion is most important to me.

Hard to like anything - SB has no long term investment in the direction their vision will take the community.They appear to be interested in how the community feels, but when all is said and done their main goal appears to maximize profits at any cost.

 

HATE IT

Have serious concerns about the project as currently proposed, and especially concerns that community voices will be steamrolled given the amount of capital and influence that are behind the project's developers.

Haven’t heard anything “good “ yet 

Having a master plan.  Including complete public access to the river and including green space all can enjoy.

Hell, no.  A development of this scope may enrich developers, but it will be disastrous for those of us who live in the Bucktown and Wicker Park neighborhoods.  It will serve as a barrier to our ability to conveniently go east and cross the river to get to Old Town, Lincoln Park, Gold Coast.  The quality of our lives will be greatly diminished.  We elected Alderman Hopkins, Moreno, and Waguespack and allowing this huge development will just show that they value input$ from wealthy developer$ over their residential constituents.  

Honestly, the project is on such a large scale and not flushed out so it’s hard to say.  The river walk and the extension of the 606 are great.

Hopkins is a liar and a rubber stamp for Rahm.

Housing, public parks areas, small venues 

How can our neighborhoods accommodate massive development & a stadium???

I agree that the proposal is a good beginning. Any developer for a project of this scale is going to shoot for the moon with the initial proposal, since they know it will get scaled back. For that reason, I see no need to get up in arms at this point. I like the diversity of uses within the plan, and a reasonable initial commitment to open space. The focus on addressing the impact to traffic congestion is a good start.

I am a bit more educated on this topic as I work in commercial real estate but at the end of the day this is a once in a generation master plan development in an exceptionally affluent and established urban area.  It needs to be thought through thoroughly and the density with tall buildings should be embraced.  Think of it as the Buckhead of Chicago.  We need the investment and the tax revenue and so long as it is not rushed through zoning and thoughtfully designed, I will fully accept the project.  Open space and transportation solutions are a huge must.  If you don't solve the access issues, this will never work.

I am excited to have such an activated development close to my neighborhood and think it would be great to have an extension of the 606 and  see this part of the city and river cleaned up.  My biggest concern is about every day traffic congestion and the problems a large venue stadium can bring such as more traffic congestion, noise and public indecency.

I am not in favor in its entirety this potential development - will make me move

I am planning to move out of Bucktown in 2018. This project will make traffic hellish for Bucktown residents. What are they thinking? I would not want to live with all this congestion.

I am unsure about the plans and the impact on the community

I appreciate that some of the tough issues are being raised. My concern remains that as exemplified on smaller scales throughout our communities that developers seem to get their way.  There were some illuminating comments in a recent Tribune article about a resistance at the alderman level to not award zoning variances....even to the degree of overriding City Planning Department recommendations.  Maybe keep an eye on local political contributions made by Sterling Bay.

I appreciated that Sterling Bay presented general concepts and ideas of their intent.  There was no Site Plan or specifics included - because they want to hear our input before committing to something the neighborhood may not like.  As time passes, I anticipate more concrete information and expectations for the project since that should be the public process.  I also understand that they are spending a ton of money on environmental clean-up.  This survey makes one mention of that but whatever they're proposing is definitely better than the pollution generated by the various manufacturing sites along the river.  The focus (rightfully so) is on the future development, but seeing nothing done on these sites would be much worse for everyone.

 

I agree with the planning concepts of tall buildings with open space in-between.  How else could you get open space?  SB is paying billions of dollars - it won't be 3- or 4-story buildings with plenty of open space.  They have to go vertical.  It just makes sense.

I believe it's a great beginning. 

I believe that sustainability of the natural ecology of the riverfront and the desirability of neighborhood life - good schools, appropriately-sized commercial and residential services and properties, are essential to the sustainability of Chicago going forward.  Building to conduit enormous wealth to the developers is a horrible mistake.

I didn't attend, answered these questions based on hear say

I do like the idea of mixed residential...condo, rental, low-rise, limited hi-rise.  I think there should be a low-income component added to the mix. Businesses should be added, as well as some retail.  There should be an indoor waterpark and sports complex.

I do not think they are off to a good start.  There has been a lack of transparency about the plans.  The concerns about density and traffic congestion should have been anticipated and addressed up front.  

I do think there should some residential development in that area.

I don't like anything about it - Sterling Bay sucks, as do the Cubs

I don't like anything about it.  The area all around is too congested and there is no way that this project will not have a very negative impact on the Sheffield Neighborhoo/Ranch Triangle 

I don't like anything about this vague proposal so far.

I don't think there is much good at this point, except the development of vacant land and buildings.

I don't trust much of what Ald Hopkins says publicly. 

I don’t believe Sterling Bay is being transparent with the community as to what exactly they are planning on doing, and how they plan to go about it. Details are minimal, and they should be working side by side with the community to give us Public Park Space!!

I don’t like any part of it I disagree with the city changing the zoning just because sterling bay wanted to build some stuff and make themselves millionaires. I’m saddened by the fact that this city can be so easily bought and manipulated by a large private equity firm. It doesn’t make me want to live in this city and I will be considering leaving the neighborhood after 30 years because of this.

I don’t like any part of it I disagree with the city changing the zoning just because sterling bay wanted to build some stuff and make themselves millionaires. I’m saddened by the fact that this city can be so easily bought and manipulated by a large private equity firm. It doesn’t make me want to live in this city and I will be considering leaving the neighborhood after 30 years because of this.

I don’t think it’s good. The whole thIng could be an amazing park

I guess it is better than the metal factory?

I have real concerns about roads and bridges in general traffic patterns being able to handle the influx of cars and people

I like adding a mix of residences and offices. 

I like building up the area, but the plans are too much and overly optimistic

I like how they incorporate the river into the plans (e.g. water taxi stops).  

I like increasing more entertainment and housing areas in the city. As mentioned, Chicago is losing residents so anyway we can create new opportunities to keep residents and attract new ones I am for. 

I like making the river open and available to everyone through paths and parks along the banks.

I like only the fact that there will be cleanup & development

I like reinventing that corridor and allowing for traffic and movement enhancements.

I like seeing something being done with the area I don't love the impact all of this development is going to have on the residents who already live where all the development is slated to take place 

I like that it will revitalize that area and address environmental concerns related to existing businesses. 

I like that its going to revitalize what would otherwise be dead space, and I like the idea of an additional concert venue (not the 20,000-seat stadium, though)

I like that redevelopment of the river front is being considered. It should be a marquee space for the city. It should add beauty and economical value and they should be balanced. Make something that makes the city and the neighborhood better. It’s a once in a lifetime chance.

I like that someone is proposing something very big, grand and dense.  Lincoln Park has been losing a lot of vibrancy and density over the past 10 years.  Losing lots of young people.  I think this project is a much needed shot to the arm.  The is a big city, let's develop a big city project site.  Let's not have the old dinosaurs dictate doing a development that belongs in the likes of Schaumburg.  I am a 34 year old single male that has lived here for 8 years and am thinking of moving to Wicker park or another area because Lincoln Park has become limited to college kids, the very old, and families.  There are fewer and fewer young to middle age people, very few cool bars, restaurants or other destinations.

I like that someone is trying to clean up that area.

I like that the area is going to be developed, but I don't like the density proposed without a traffic or public transportation solution. 

I like that the community is passionate and engaged.

I like that the Finkl site will be developed since its an eyesore.  But its confusing to understand what will be built in its place. 

I like that the industrial use of rhe area has ended. The overall plan is excellent,

but the entertain venues aspect is perhaps too aggressive. The congestion fears can be handled without too great a sacrifice by surrounding neighborhoods.

I like that there will be housing and public spaces/parks around the river area, usually a desirable type of area for most cities.  The current industrial plants etc do not belong there and I am excited about the possibility of replacing them with infrastructure that could positively contribute to the environment and not deplete it.

I like that there will be open space and parks, and that is it. 

I like that they're taking into account traffic/parking/housing costs 

I like that they’re developing unused land and adding retail and businesses to the area. 

I like that this tries to create a vibrant area in the city, instead of letting the suburbs get these types of outlets. I want people to come see how wonderful Chicago is.

I like that underutilized parts of the city will become productive again.  Currently the scoped areas are eyesores.

I like the concept of the SB overall plan showing the ultimate plan for the entire site.  Modifications or connections to the Metra station is good.

I like the density and improvements to the Metra station. 

I like the density, the green space and plans to improve the public transit infrastructure

I like the development, but think they should scale back a bit.

I like the fact that the land and water will be cleaned up and made more accessible. I appreciate that this is an incredibly expensive process but am not clear on who is paying for what parts of the cleanup.  Sterling Bay makes it seem that they are paying for all if it. I like that this area could be an expansion of the communities on either side of the PD, making them more "linked" and accessible.

I like the fact that the site is being redeveloped.. I am very much in favor of additional open space for the community 

I like the fact that their proposal is cleaning up the old industrial areas.

I like the high rise idea with entertainment options.  Wrigley did a great job.  Use that as an example.  If we build a large venue can you limit traffic when necessary like wrigley does on game days?  Permits for residents would allow thru traffic.  No way around the traffic nightmare unless north ave becomes eastbound only and Webster westbound, or some traffic modification occurs.  None of these east west arteries can handle traffic. They all resemble the  Woodfield Mall parking lot on Black Friday.   These neighborhoods have huge amounts of traffic and for whatever reason they use cars more so than bikes. Even though more people are riding bikes, the infrastructure is going to have to change. Build a huge bridge to go straight to the expressway and bypass all the local traffic, is that an option financially??

I like the ice skating rink.  That's about it.  Our neighborhood can't handle the density of this Lincoln Yards development.

I like the idea of a soccer stadium / arena.

I like the idea of activating the unused space, bringing people together, improving transportation options (606 extension, river walk and taxis, etc,.)

I like the idea of additional metra and L lines or stations at the site, as well as connections to the existing riverwalk downtown and the 606. I also like the concept of mixed use (residential, retail, and office) all in one place.

I like the idea of bringing the river back to the people, the increased density - which means more people to patronize local business - and the mixed-use design of the site.

I like the idea of building more open green space and a bike/ walking path along the lake. 

I like the idea of connecting the two neighborhoods, extension of 606, something being done with that space.

I like the idea of decentralizing cars and parking from the design.

I like the idea of dense urban development in the area. Increasing density and transit options outside of the urban core is good for the city

I like the idea of developing along the river, turning it from wasted post-industrial space to green space, where I can ride a bike, go kayaking, or walk to retail.

I like the idea of improving the area and having it be a more productive part of the city.

I like the idea of incorporating more green space into the LP area, particularly around the river front. Creating a space for working professionals (ie office buildings) is a nice idea since those bodies with, potentially, be transient, leaving the neighborhood to the owners in the evening, similar to the aesthetic of Washington D.C. I very much appreciate the area is being repurposed at all. 

I like the idea of parks but more space needs to be dedicated to them and a riverwalk where you can get on those water taxis sounds nice or maybe other boat rides too.

I like the idea of residential and retail along the river as well as additional park space.

I like the idea of something going in that spot. (Just not the idea of a bunch of housing and entertainment without consideration of a public park).

I like the idea of updating traffic flow and better connecting Wicker and Lincoln Park

I like the idea of utilizing the river and of consolidating the residential environment of the northside. 

I like the idea that most of the land use will be for taxable income to the city. Chicago is desperately underfunded and needs a maximum amount of income from any new ventures.

I like the improved transit infrastructure, which is sorely needed for the area - even without the addition of all the proposed new buildings and entertainment venue.  Like the idea of River Access with a new Riverwalk and much needed open open park space in the area. 

I like the overall design, not the density. I love the trail connection to the 606 and along the river.

I like the possibility of the land being developed around the river to beautify the area 

I like they are adding another river crossing.

I like they are taking empty land and doing something with it. 

I liked the concepts of walk-ability, openness, vibrancy.

I love the 80-story high rise, which will help establish the area as an employment hub for the city. The development will drive public transit improvements and reduce the auto-oriented nature of the surrounding area. Increased density will benefit local businesses, increase the property tax base, and support existing and new public transit.

I love the idea of beautiful & tall towers with good population density to support new and existing businesses and add to the city's tax base.

I love the opportunity at hand. To start fresh and really creative a unique neighborhood. However, in order for sterling bay to take this on it needs to have economic  benefits to them as that is their business. It be useful to know what is their tolerance so that they make a reasonable profit that allows maximum open area and no 40+ high rises.

I really like the plan and I am looking forward to working as a community to execute on it. We need hard facts at the beginning - how will this project be phased, who is funding what portions and how, and what aspects are finalized vs. visionary. 

I see no particular positive features standing out at this point.

I strongly support the idea of a pedestrian-focused community with mixed used and more than 8 acres of parks. This development should aim to retain residents already living in Chicago--instead of aiming to attract/please non-residents. If current residents have a reason to love their communities, the flow of new residents will occur naturally.

I think a "good beginning" is using some of this space for park space along the river for the current residents of the area. I think that adding some retail shops and living would be good in this area, but that should be limited.

I think a good beginning is having some housing, some retail, and green space.  This needs to be carefully considered so that it doesn't negatively impact traffic as well as residents and retail currently nearby.

I think improving the clybourn Metra station is a good start

I think it is a good beginning but needs to be a better community fit

I think it is a terrible and inauspicious beginning. We know their motive is avarice and greed. What kind of responsible organization would try to shove through this outrageous plan without true thoughtful planning and attention to infrastructure and impact on the surrounding community. 

i think it is terrible

I think it's a fantastic idea to develop what used to be an industrial corridor, but it must be done responsibly and commit to extensive green space for all of Chicago to enjoy. I think avoiding car-centric development is essential. And there must be affordable housing included and good public transit options.

I think people need to settle down and realize that the sky isn’t falling and the shovels aren’t in the ground. Let’s see how this plays out. It’s a once in a generation project for us; let’s stay engaged and keep an open and POSITIVE dialogue 

I think the area needs to be developed.

I think the priority should be affordable housing, schools, and parks.  This kind of development does not belong in a residential area.

I think the retail space should be scaled down, public park/nature development should be scaled up, and it should be designed to have 0 impact on congestion. Retail vacancy is already a problem on north avenue and in the new city developments that offer similar services to the area. Chicago needs more public space, we need more affordable housing, we need better schools and programs for families... that's why people are leaving Chicago, not because they don't have enough 'live venue access' or shopping access. This is a ridiculously expensive development to tax payers, to the city, to the environment... and this initial plan directly displays the lack of interested in solving any of the actual problems in our city because you can't pad profit margins on things that actually serve people.

I think the soccer stadium and concert venues will breathe vibrancy into the area. The last thing we want is another look where it's a ghost town after 6pm.

I think the whole parcel should be a giant city park. We have vacant retail and apartments all over the place - no more retail and no more rentals!

I wish it were possible to credit the phrases "officially begun", "good beginning", and "initial Lincoln Yards proposal" when we know this project has been cooking for years. How many of us were there for the North Branch Framework plans and the many meetings and impassioned pleas by residents, neighbors, citizens, nature lovers, parents, drivers, cyclists, dog owners, bird watchers, pedestrians, tax-payers, local small businesses and others (and their diverse needs and opinions) but generally for a lower density, pedestrian/bike friendly, nature/park/open space balanced neighborhood, instead of a mini-city on steroids with a 20,000 seat stadium, a waft of chain retail/restaurants (because small/local businesses can't afford the high rents of new development), with the result being the predictable boring sameness of a planned quasi suburban type community, replacing an interesting late 19th century campus/compound that could have been a heck of a lot more imaginatively recreated, re-purposed and re-imagined, rather than completely obliterated and wiped out, replaced by the anodyne commercial sameness and rigidity of a 100% profit optimized real estate profit driven model built from the ground up. The new Wrigley is becoming a Disneyland. I'd be more open to this conversation if the leaders and proponents and politicians and developers would use honest language to say that this is what they want, and then clearly frame the the parameters that they will and can negotiate on, rather than persist in attempting to perhaps falsely give people this idea that it is possible for public opinion to meaningfully impact and shape the already planned outcomes for Sterling Bay. Telling us this is the "beginning"  in fact comes across at minimum rather patronizing, and in this context, seems unnecessarily provoking. Tell us what the variable options are and how big there are. Tell us what the fixed concepts are, and the must haves. Tell us what the various options will cost us. Then let's sit down and discuss what we can do, separating out the what we'd like. Ideally, there should be conceptual guides for all development in the City of Chicago  to prioritize these aspects: equity, environment, social justice, displacement, gentrification,community benefits, nature/carbon sequestration/sustainability/health issues and to balance them against the profit motives of the developers and the financial goals of the city. As it has long stood here in Chicago, the community benefits aspects, the economic  utility impacts and the effects on the common (using the economic sense of the word) to evaluate such enormous wholesale redevelopment projects as these from the perspective beyond just the wards, to consider it relative to the city as a whole and to goals of evening out access to housing, employment and recreational opportunities across this city, including long dis-invested wards and areas to the south and to the west. And to also weigh cultural and historic aspects that affect aesthetics, create a real sense of place, generate touristic appeal, and diversify the economic business sector (the chains displace locally owned and unique businesses that create charm and unique qualities -- who wants to visit an area exclusively and entirely dominated by well known national fast food chains, retail stores and bank branches and coffee shops? Given the pressures on the retail industry being displaced by Amazon, is building that kind of infrastructure a wise use of redevelopment dollars? Where is the space for the artists, creators, makers, entrepreneurs and for the community to come together in shared enjoyment of the outdoors without having to pay huge fees to watch passive entertainment (concerts/soccer?). This site could rival Amsterdam and other historic European cities on the river. But the plans do not seem to currently reflect that kind of thoughtful blend and mix of historic Chicago industrial past architectural vernacular set beside interesting new architecture, focusing on low density and at the tallest mid rise, integrated with significant nature and open areas for gatherings formal and informal, mature shade trees, recreation formal and informal, for people of all ages and for humans and their dogs and their children to safely play, separate from each other. In many ways, Lathrop Village reflects great thought about housing and residential communities in a pastoral campus along the river, with setbacks and so on. The sketches provided so far do not provide adequate detail to judge the merits of the development as a whole, and by its components.

I would leave me to see the area developed but at a much smaller scale with more green  space. 

I would like a smaller population density.

I would like to see transit loops cybourn and elston  and or halsted and milwaukee start knitting the two sides of the developement together from the beginning if only so city workers can get there and out.   

I'm impressed with Hopkins balance.

I’m glad we had the initial proposal by sterling bay.  The fear is that major decisions are being made behind closed doors, regardless to community input.  It would be nice to understand and map out the process to determining the final master plan, with dates, responsible parties and timelines.

I’m very concerned anout traffic in the area, I do drive in Chicago and it’s already a nightmare.

Improving the river walk. Nothing else

increased bridges, pedestrian bridges, and bike path connectivity from 606 trail to further points east in Lincoln park are a good start.

Increased density in the new neighborhood is a good thing, and makes for a vibrant city life.

Increased open space and new Metra station 

Increased transportation hub, using an area that is currently unused/ vacant in a meaningful way.

Infrastructure improvements like new Metra station

It appears they have covered the bases with the outside organizations they have hired for density... but would like more detailed info on each area.

It is a good beginning that needs open space, parking, density and parking tweaked. 

It is a good beginning that this area is being developed at all and that there is talk about how to integrate many parks and to deal with congestion.  It is crucial that we make a riverwalk park along the whole length of the river and Sterling Bay's development is a part of that. 

It is a good beginning. They are addressing items on the land they control. They are proposing the addition of north-south traffic inprovements in the land in the PD and are even making suggestions for new E-W connections via Armitage. The City needs to step up and help with solutions for regional traffic issues. These cannot all be solved by the developer. If the City wants to see economic development and a thriving area in accordance with the North Branch Framework Plan (which allows for increased density and height in return for zoning conversion fees and density bonus payments). The City needs to put forth an infrastructure plan to enable the development they have envisioned to be built while minimizing impact on adjacent established neighborhoods. 

It is a good start in that SB has some great people at the table - partners & subcos. But I get the sense from SB that this is beyond “just officially begun” in their mind and will push the city & communities to make decisions quickly. 

it is a reasonable opening bid

It is mix use and trying to be innovative in not just putting up buildings to maximize density but creating other options that will be good for the surrounding areas (if done correctly)

It is not a beginning of a public process but the start of a done deal that will tick off the boxes to look transparent-unless the community demands better

It is not a good beginning , traffic and density is going to negatively impact the surrounding areas and none of has been adiquitely addressed. SB is buying up land farther then area discussed... how far west /east are they really planning on going?  

It is the beginning. Developers will always start presenting large, grand “dreams”, knowing they will have to scale back. 

It seems like the stadium and concert venues are being put out there to scare people so that SB can get 70-80 towers in the space.

It should be all parkland with tennis courts

It was good to finally see something to get an understanding of what they have in mind for the space.  The riverfront is something that should be developed.  It is completely under utilized in that specific area of the city.

It will be a vast improvement over the former use of the site.

It will bring cool businesses to the neighborhood and allow our riverfront to finally be used over there.

It would've been a good beginning to retain some of the old industrial buildings to repurpose.  The Distillery District in Toronto could provide inspiration if additional unique buildings remain on site.  The aesthetic of the design is just as important as any near sighted concerns about impact on nearby communities.  

It's a good start but, it should have more detail

It's a start, lots of wood to chop

It's a terrible beginning.  Live Nation is an evil organization and the city should not do business with it.

It's barely a start; not enough detailed information.

It's good that Sterling Bay is finally at the table.  The previous 5 years of community meetings were all done without the actual stakeholders.

It's great to see a new urban vision for the site and area

It's not a steel mill or metal recycler.

It's unfortunate the community input was solicited earlier, but given the unique nature of the site and it's inevitable conversion from industry to mixed residential/commercial, Ald. Hopkins seems to have a solid approach and one that Sterling Bay is able to work with. Slow is good - but we don't want the property to stay vacant any longer than it must, and there are signs the new construction market is slowing down. The emphasis on an accessible riverfront is also a positive.

It’s a start and there needs to be a start somewhere. I like that they r looking into transportation options but am very negative on amt of retail and contiguous public park space along river. 

It’s ok. The traffic issue and lack of routes over the river and under the interstate is a huge problem. A Clybourn bus is a must. 

Its a good initial concept, but the devil is in the details-especially transit concerns.

Its been an ok start.  Need more direct Q&A, not breakout groups.  The high rise proposal needs to be dropped.  The traffic situation needs to be a priority.  Local promoters need to be involved in bidding on and promoting events.  Not just Live Nation.  The soccer stadium will be a great addition.

its flashy and great for SB but will totally screw the folks that already live around the community.  the city will end up giving tons of things away for free hoping it will create jobs, make the city look cool to visitors and companies looking to relo.  but it will only increase the day to day stress of living in the city for currrent residents 

Keep people who are only into this project for money out of it. Hopkins for example.

Large public "play areas" - soccer fields, etc.

Leed certified

Less congestion needed!! 

Let’s get building 

Like shops, restaurants and park space that is walkable.  Like improving neighborhood landscape    Like new housing if reasonable price and fits neighborhood character like row homes, townhomes. 

Like that it is being developed for public use

like that it will CLEAN up the area 

Like that they're proposing to do something with the land, but needs to be significantly more modest.

Like the idea of developing underutilized space, adding more parks and hopefully more mixed income housing.  The river is a totally underutilized space and would love more access.

Like the overall plan, mixed use

Like: that they are cleaning up the brownfield sites, the idea of extending the 606, improving river access, creating an Armitage bridge, the general idea of bringing new development to the site (if this development is accompanied by a city park on the site of General Iron)

Lincoln Yards project is positive and stabilizing addition to former industrial corridor.

Linking bike lanes 

Listen to the neighboring communities!  More green space needed!  Reduce the number of floors in the proposed living facilities!  Reduce automobile congestion  that will result with current proposal! 

Love opening up the river! It's such a unique, beautiful part of our city that basically doesn't exist north of Goose Island because no one can see it. Getting running trails along it and bikes, and boat tie ups can make the river a vibrant part of the city. I like the stadium idea and additional park land as well. 

Love the idea of open park space, a new soccer stadium (toyota park is not realistic for city dwellers), and another (hopefully outdoor) venue for live music on the north side. Sterling Bay is marketing the development with a vision of transit, and I think that's a great start.

Love the plans for integration of a longer 606 and new Metra station

Low density low rise residential with lots of open space. Affordable housing units should be at a,percentage equal to the percentage currently in the area in a two mile radius from the site. That radius extends west from the site as well as in other directions.

Lower density and higher open space.

Making use of a huge area that is currently not servicing any residents

Maybe

Mix use units within the property, bike path connectivity 

Mixed use is appealing, but need to have infrastructure to support it

Mixed use.

more green space

More housing and density. Jobs and offices close to residents. New public transportation improvements and integrations

More housing and retail is good for the neighborhood. Linking LP and WP is great

More park space

More park space

More park space

More park space along river with sport fields

More parks - especially a dog park!

Multi-use site

My main concern is traffic flow. Getting from Logan Sq to  Lincoln Pk and back on a daily basis has become an increasing challenge over the last 35 years. I really don't care what they build in there as long as traffic is not made even worse than it already is. Cars are here to stay. It's a reality of life. SB and the City need to plan accordingly. That being said, stadiums and music venues are not a good idea. Their impact on traffic would be negative. In addition, the music venue scene is already over saturated with many operators just barely hanging on.

Need to see more 

needs development and this plan is very well thought out, including traffic mitigation and integration w/606 and Metra N NW lines

No

No - not enough information and no clear plan

no 20,000 person stadium

No Section 8 Housing

No, an alderman should know what is good or bad before allowing such submissions. This project is too out of focus for what the neighborhoods and organizations protecting and building our communities have been advocating for decades. 

No, far from it

No, I am not impressed

No, I do not believe this beginning is good.  The developer and its backers are politically tied to the city amd stand to reap huge financial gains at the citizens expense.  Yhe cotozens lose and the politicians win.  Childrens Memorial development is still a bad idea and doing enough damage to our neighborhood.  We should hold everyone accountable and get rid of the Aldermen and coty officials allowing these travesties.

No, it doesn't seem like a good faith effort by developers to truly engage neighbors and the city rushing through proposals without focusing on the sustainability of the project. The city seems not have learned the lessons of the disastrous privatization of parking meters, misappropriation of TIF funds to build the empty Wintrust arena and the the negative impact of continually funneling resources and time away from other communities in Chicago in need of more infrastructure, safety and development opportunities. 

No, it is not a good beginning, and I am not confident that Alderman Hopkins will ensure that community input is incorporated.

No.  In brief, the proposal is too aggressive in its use of space and I fear the negative effects will spill over into adjacent neighborhoods.  

No.  Sterling Bay has not shared it's master plan therefore community engagement at this point is not productive.

No.  Traffic and parks and the riverfront should be considered first.  Burnham said make no small plans

No.  We need more transparency.

No. I am incredibly concerned about the lack of ACTUAL, USABLE open space, about the tall towers and traffic congestion. Everything they’ve done to address these concerns ring false. They’re clearly trying to pull one over on the community by putting a marketing spin on it. Add in a 5-acre Park!

No. I like the park space and that is it. 

No. Why not work WITH the community on developing instead of planning what THEY think is best for us...when everyone knows their bottom line is most important to them. 

none of it

Not a good beginning - purely based on SB financial return, heavy disregard for the community.

Not a good beginning at all.

Not at all

not if you're thinking long term for benefit of people who live here or might think of moving here 

Not much that I like about it, as I understand it now.

Not much!

Not much.  The live entertainment venue and potential for Amazon could have a positive effect on property values if transit is managed properly (no evidence of that yet).   Extending the 606 is a plus.

Not much. I am very concerned about the traffic and density. 

not much. I was a supporter of the early north branch planning that wanted to keep the area primarily industrial. I think bringing too many people to the area is a very bad idea for the adjacent neighborhoods. The congestion around north/Clyborn/Halsted is terrible. I can see congestion around this area being significantly worse

Not really. Sterling Bay promised and under delivered on the commitment on park space. Where are the checks and balances to make sure that they don’t pull a bait and switch?

Not such a good beginning

not sure

Not too much. 

Nothing

Nothing

Nothing

Nothing

nothing except having some knowledge of what their plan is about

nothing included is a good beginning

Nothing is good thus far. The lack of green space and lack of planned infrastructure improvement is alarming. 

NOTHING IT BRINGS  A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS

Nothing really appeals about the proposal.  If it goes through I will move.

Nothing!  It is a collossally bad idea!

Nothing. 

Nothing.  This sounds like another plan that has been made behind closed doors with Rahm Emanuel & his brother Ari. 

Open areas

Open public space, public recreational fields, the riverwalk, and the dog park

Open space and athletic fields, alternatives for transit and traffic congestion mitigation plans 

open space for parks

Out with factories and the recycling plant! I just want something my kids can use and attract good restaurants with outdoor space. Expansion of 606

Overall I think the vision is quite exciting and more housing is required to ensure the city grows and housing stays relatively affordable. The recent construction of the Lincoln Common has brought the eastern Lincoln Park to a standstill. I believe the traffic caused by construction and then added density of individuals poses a significant issue for those having to travel through the area. Additional detail should be explored around public trasport and revised roadways within and outside the area (even roads that are currently completed like Fullerton which should not have street parking in some key areas)

Overall, the development is exciting and positive. There need to be refinements with regard to parks and traffic.

Park space

Parkland

Parks and 606

Planning for Lincoln Yards must have enough public input and not take place behind close doors.  DPD's ' business as usual'-model needs revamping to be transparent.  More public open space which is in addition to include pops and plazas needs be negotiated strongly. 

Plans for the riverwalk and the 606 extension

Possibility of Amazon HQ

Potential hotel, under 5000 person event venue

Potential to extend 606 east

Provides a beginning for improving current industrial area. 

Public discussion 

Public open space is absolutely critical, and should outweigh residential development.

Quality of life and property values for current area residents will both suffer. Block the current proposal. 

Questionable beginning in view of limited community input to date

Re-vamp of El Train, Infrastructure Improvement, Green Space

Re-working the Metra station, extending the 606, access to river and from there to downtown

Redeveloping the area with homes and not manufacturing is good.

Redevelopment of the site is generally a good idea, but it is important that it be done carefully and with real respect and input for neighbors.

Rehabbing the river bank and improving access to more green space

reject soccer stadium and live nation venue

Required large public park land.  

River access and public open space

RIver taxi stop, extended 606, more divy bike stations, shuttle to the Armitage stop

SB's initial "vision" is NOT a "good beginning" and they--and Ald. Hopkins--should reevaluate their profit-motive driven " vision" versus what is best for current and future residents of this area of Chicago.

Scale back--tons.  This is my neighborhood for over 50 years--this will make my place congested and unpleasant

Seeing an initial plan from Sterling Bay

showing us some plans.  Though the current ones are not feasible, IMO.

So far what we've seen is an unmitigated disaster.

Soccer stadium

Some development is OK.

Someone is investing in what has been a cesspool of polution for years...strewn with glass and metal shards, all but ensuring flat bike tires when passing through the toxic clouds there. This is amazing that this level of investment is about to happen to transform this area...brining jobs and energy we haven't seen. 

Something that doesn't dramatically impact the quality of life. Traffic is a HUGE issue and should be considered.

Somethings seem great.  It is land that needs development but traffic considerations are a must.  Policing the area is a must.  Lots to think about first.

Specific timelines for development

Start from what they've proposed and refine it by deleting the stadium and adding more green space and housing.

Sterling Bay is automatically getting the benefit of the doubt. Single  family homes through 4 flats are the  foundation of Chicago communities. The extremely out of proportion developments will destroy neighborhoods as we know them today!  These mega projects are for transient people to Chicago & not for the people who have lived here all their lives or for the people looking to establish roots and build a family in the neighborhood!

Sterling Bay is pushing the envelope to get what they are really hoping for. A 40 story building, a 10,000 seat stadium /arena. Their proposal should not be divided by 2 but by 4 to really balance the needs of development vs the needs of the neighborhood

Sterling Bay off to a fine start

Sterling didn't buy the property without some assurance of their ability to have dense residential high rises, which they have already submitted PD applications for.

Sure. You have to start somewhere.

Survey current retailers & Conduct current traffic studies (not relying on any previous info....to ensure the city / community knows what we are "getting in to." Wrigley Field  area was determined (not so far in the past) that the neighborhood / streets / police coverage would be ample. Of course no one has a crystal ball, but poor forecasting combined with out proactive measures spells disaster for its future and it's residents  / potential residents.

SURVEY FAR TOO WORDY & DETAILED TO GET CONSISTENT, MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK.  ONLY UNDERSTANDABLE TO HIGHLY INFORMED INSIDERS

talk about traffic impacts and the amount of space will be dedicated as open land.

Talk, transparency, with more talk and transparency then a residential vote while keeping Rahm and Smith out of backroom decision making where it will eliminate the benefits of the first four steps. Beware! This decision will be made behind closed doors like so many other deals in the City.

that Sterling Bay is sharing information- they need to share MORE. The only thing that sounds decent is expanding the 606

The 606 extension and green space are great ideas.

The addition of a walkable retail space with a river walk is desirable. Additionally, the potential for additional jobs within our community is a plus.

the additional shops and restaurants that have reasonable hours (close by 8pm)

The aesthetics seem good so far.  I like the start of adding open space along the river.

the aiming high, inclusion of a stadium, parks, and push for Amazon 

The area should be developed - carefully.

The best thing is getting rid of the industrial sites including the scrap metal site. I think the best start will be developing the roadways, area along the water and residences in the area. 

The design vision is somewhat compelling - but there’s no detail in the proposal on the two points that actually matter - 1. how ~20K new people will move in without negatively impacting commute times for existing residents, 2. how existing parks and public space will absorb all of these new families.

The development of housing and public space is certainly a good beginning, so long as it matches the tone of the neighborhood.

The development of the industrial area, but in a well-planned form. Accounting for traffic congestion, density and school availability.

The entire scope (all land being developed) must be included and understood. In addition, the specific plan details are needed like who is paying for transportation upgrades and such. All details must be made public. Finally, the actual park space details must be presented along with which areas are public or private.

The fact that the discussion has included changes to the infrastructure and a baseline for what needs to be changed to make this work, is great.  It's a good beginning as they have to start somewhere.  The area needs development and what SB has proposed gets everyone started.  I don't believe the entire process should be "slow".  Take the positive portions and start working from there.

The fact that there has been dialogue between both sides and multiple community meetings to provide input. 

The good beginning is the fact that the area will be developed and that the river will be accessible.  Economic activity in the area is also part of the good beginning. 

The idea of development, retail, open spaces

The idea of expanding the residential and commerical base to underutilized land

The land needs to be re-developed from an industrial  brown field site to a mixed residential and commercial site that has a positive impact on the surrounding communities as well as the city as a whole

The mixed-use density is good.  In order to maintain an economically vibrant city, we need additional supply of residential and commercial space.  The additional supply can alleviate the pressure that results in families and family businesses being priced out of their spaces.  Density is key to growth, lest we become San Francisco with insane housing prices held up by arcane opposition to density.

The new Metra station

The only thing I like and should be considered is OPEN GREEN SPACE

The place is an eye sore right now.  It needs to be fixed/addressed.  

The proposal has little to recommend except for the multi-use orientation, which should be a given for any development. 

The proposal is a good beginning

the regeneration brings new like to a lost space between LP and Bucktown

The remediation process and only the idea of development, understanding that the area will be developed.

The riverfront walkways are a good idea.  Including a hotel is a good idea.

The site should be mixed-use development, with a mix of housing affordability, shopping, work and entertainment options. To the extent this proposal accomplishes that, it is to the good.

The soccer stadium and live nation aspects of the plan don't fit the capacity or character of the development

The space will be repurposed for multi-use commercial and residential.

The stadium and concert venues. 

The suggested independent traffic surveys are essential and should be underway.

There are not enough details to understand their proposal - how do you ask laypersons to conceptualize what 12 million square feet of development spread over 53 acres might look like (with sparse details) and then ask them to identify specifics about what they think works and doesn’t.

There does not seem to be a "good beginning" in the current proposal.  Some low-rise and mixed income housing as well as park and "family" space, particularly along the river, should definitely be part of the plan.  This will attract a stable, safe neighborhood for individuals and families and promote people taking interest in caring for and remaining in the community.  This will also help local, already established businesses in the surrounding area to thrive.

There is not much to like in their proposal.

There is nothing in this proposal that constitutes "a good beginning."  Ald. Hopkins, his aldermanic colleagues, and Mayor Emanuel should know that voters are paying attention to this.  So far, this stinks of a typical Chicago racket where the politicians, developers, and entertainment bigwigs sideline taxpayer money to support massive development that puts money in their pockets while ruining the character of this city.  Voters in Lincoln Park haven't forgotten Ald. Smith's disastrous concessions to developers on the old Children's Memorial Hospital site and she will be forever politically damaged by her decision to support developers over voters.  Ald. Hopkins and Mayor Emmanuel should take heed.

There needs to be a comprehensive plan from the city that guides developments along the river. While the revitalization of the river (our second coastline) is exciting and potentially promising, we shouldn’t rush to approve any plan without thoughtful consideration of its impact as well as the potential lost opportunity to create really wonderful public urban green space along the river. The SB proposal is a good start in terms of identifying riverwalk space, but it is not enough, and these decisions about major urban developments should not be dictated by the developer. 

THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW BRIDGE FOR USE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC OVER THE RIVER AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 

they cleaned up the toxins

They have a great design team for architecture and landscape. 

They seem to be committed to improving the area—the river walk, the park space, the design of the retail/office space all look good. They’ve got some good ideas for improving transportation. I’d like a better sense of how much the taxpayers will have to pay to bring all this about, and how realistic it is to say it can be accomplished without a negative impact on the existing neighborhoods. 

This area should be developed as city population growth settles northwest along the river. We can sustain the growth, but should keep the scale and humility of many Chicago neighborhoods in mind. 

This is a fine first proposal.  We are talking about taking a large, unused plot of land that is literally an industrial wasteland and turning into dense, residential and commercial space.  Nothing of value is being razed to make way for this development.  Something will be built there and this is a good first step.

This may further increase the property values of Bucktown

This proposal is out of scale for the neighborhood

Throw the bums out!

too ambitious; don't like it at all

Too much of the area is commercial and residential 

Too vague to know what to like about it..... it's an improvement to clean up the area, but with an eye toward density balanced with green space. 

Totally agree with Ald. Hopkins and hope city officials continue working with Sterling Bay to refine the design. I like the idea of a soccer stadium and concert venue in the neighborhood and am not all that concerned about vehicle traffic. The plans should continue to explore public transit options, bike/walk friendly infrastructure and not cater to people who insist on driving everywhere. 

traffic above all since whatever is built will have a virtually permanent impact on how we move here.  

traffic and density are paramount as they will determine what the quality of life will be.  Since this is on the way to the expressway, there is no way to avoid being impacted by a development of this size, no matter where you live in Lincoln park

Traffic congestion needs to be addressed better.

Traffic in the area is already horrible. There is no feasible way to prevent it from getting worse

Turning the land from vacant or industrial uses into residential and commercial; increasing the City's tax base to try to close the deficit and pay for unfunded pensions, which should mitigate the need to raise property taxes that fall more heavily on Lincoln Park than other areas of the City; a development that helps tie together Lincoln Park and Bucktown, which currently are divided by the river and freeway; bringing additional entertainment options within walking distance (for me); bringing in additional residents to support retail on Clybourn Avenue, North Avenue, and the surrounding areas; additional park space, including a dog park; a river walk away (which has already begun near CH Robinson).

Turning the site into low-rise shops and housing with parks iterspersed

Unfortunately I have been and will be unable to attend the meetings re the proposals for the development of Lincoln Yards  However, I have attempted to keep somewhat informed with regard to it  I certainly am aware of Sterling Bay and their acquiring vast amounts of land in the area!

Using the space for something. They should focus on green space and low rise housing, a mix of condos, apartments, and houses with a dedicated transportation line, solely between the development and downtown, as well as a water taxi. 

Very ambitious.. concerned about traffic and congestion. Need infrastructure improvement and mass transit 

Very little. This seems to be a case of "we've got this land now let's throw things against the wall to see what the community will tolerate" as opposed to seeing what the community needs. 

Walking paths and restaurants

Water taxi options and riverfront makeover

We appreciate they are taking this industrial waste site and cleaning it for public use again. We also appreciate they are including a redevelopment of the riverfront for public use. We also appreciate they are coordinating efforts with the city to improve mass transportation along the corridor.

We are 100% against the development.

We can't evaluate LY without knowing whether we get a park at the General Iron site. That needs to be resolved before plans are finalized.

We know what their initial plan is.  So we have something to comment on.

Well planned development is a good thing for Chicago.  This plan has the potential to revitalize a significant piece of our neighborhood.  

What wasn’t a good beginning: Ignoring the requests of the advisory board for a meeting for so long that they had to write an editorial to push for dialogue; presenting an extremely meager outline of SB’s plans at the public meeting; not taking public questions at the meeting (it was very difficult to talk with individual reps who usually did not have answers or dodged); lack of transparency over public cost vs. what Sterling Bay will shoulder.

 

What was good: 

 

1.) That they actually started the process of discussion.

 

2.) As a kayaker, I appreciate that they have included a stepped shoreline which might accommodate entries and exits from kayaks (though not necessarily launches, for which shoreline access would be necessary).  That is a very particular “like,” but one that happens to be important to me individually and the kayaker community in Chicago.

 

3.) I like that they’ve attempted to ‘activate’ the space to encourage pedestrian and active use, although I’m concerned that they haven’t reinstituted the grid in an adequately granular plan such that the site will be as permeable as they suggest.

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

yes

Yes

Yes

yes - I liked the initial plans and think they are a good base to discuss changes and improvements

Yes for increased density!!!

Yes this is helpful to home values that have NOT rebounded as they should have since the 2008 melt down.

Yes- good beginning. More development is better in my view, better than vacant land.

Yes, great beginning 

Yes, I think this is a good beginning. There have been numerous opportunities for community input, and I hope that will continue to be the case. 

Yes, it's a good start. Not enough information on traffic and congestion. I like the relocation of the Metro station and expanding Armitage from the Kennedy over to Southport. Removing that extension would be a deal breaker.

Yes, it's past time to move this property to clean, modern use. An amazon hq or other class-A corporate deployment, plus controlled residential and commercial  use, would be great for the city and could be reasonably accommodated. sterling bay's las-vegas-in-chicago compound an inappropriate and unmanageable behemoth designed as a cash flow machine for the benefit of the developers at the life-quality and tax expense of existing communities. 

Yes. 

Yes. I especially like the tall buildings. Building up enables more people to live where we are all lucky enough to call home. Increased housing supply helps lower the cost of housing for all of us, which is also a great competitive advantage vs other metros towards keeping/gaining employers and jobs. Long-term investments towards entertainment destinations and a new river walk all sound like great ideas that should help drive tourism and visits to the area.

Yes. Pretty Straight forward public process for a project of this magnitude.

Yes. SB develops quality projects and has a strong reputation. 

You have work to do.  Vision is good, the proposal is sub-par